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The guys met in Branson again this year.
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Vets INFO
Note that: “87% of the public now holds Vietnam veterans in high esteem.”Never again will one generation of veterans abandon another -Vietnam
Veterans of America“Of the 2,709,918 Americans who served in Vietnam, less than 850,000 are
estimated to be alive today, with the youngest American Vietnam veteran’s
age approximated to be 54 years old.” So, if you’re alive and reading this,
how does it feel to be among the last 1/3rd of all the U.S. Vets who served
in Vietnam?…don’t know about you guys, but kind of gives me the chills,
Considering this is the kind of information I’m used to reading about WWII
and Korean War vets.So the last 14 years we are dying too fast, only the few will survive by
2015…if any; if true 390 Vietnam vets die a day. So in 2190 days from
today, lucky to be a Vietnam veteran alive in only 6 years.These statistics were taken from a variety of sources to include: The VFW
Magazine, the Public Information Office, and the HQ CP Forward Observer -
1st Recon April 12, 1997.STATISTICS FOR INDIVIDUALS IN UNIFORM AND IN COUNTRY (??VIETNAM VETERANS):
9,087,000 military personnel served on active duty during the Vietnam Era
(August 5, 1964 – May 7, 1975).8,744,000 GIs were on active duty during the war (Aug 5, 1964-March 28,
1973).2,709,918 Americans served in Vietnam, this number represents 9.7% of their
generation.3,403,100 (Including 514,300 offshore) personnel served in the broader
Southeast Asia Theater (Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, flight crews based in
Thailand, and sailors in adjacent South China Sea waters).2,594,000 personnel served within the borders of South Vietnam (Jan. 1, 1965
- March 28, 1973). Another 50,000 men served in Vietnam between 1960 and
1964. Of the 2.6 million, between 1-1.6 million (40-60%) either fought in
combat, provided close support or were at least fairly regularly exposed to
enemy attack.7,484 women (6,250 or 83.5% were nurses) served in Vietnam.
Peak troop strength in Vietnam: 543,482 (April 30, 1968).
CASUALTIES:
The first man to die in Vietnam was James Davis, in 1958. He was with the
509th Radio Research Station. Davis Station in Saigon was named for him.Hostile deaths: 47,378.
Non-hostile deaths: 10,800
Total: 58,202 (Includes men formerly classified as MIA and Mayaguez
casualties). Men who have subsequently died of wounds account for the
changing total.8 nurses died — 1 was KIA.
61% of the men killed were 21 or younger.
11,465 of those killed were younger than 20 years old.
Of those killed, 17,539 were married.
Average age of men killed: 23.1 years.
Deaths -
Average Age? Total Deaths: 23.11 years.
Enlisted: 50,274 –22.37 years?
Officers: 6,598 –28.43 years.
Warrants: 1,276 –24.73 years?
E1: 525 –20.34 years?
11B MOS: 18,465 –22.55 years.
Five men killed in Vietnam were only 16 years old.
The oldest man killed was 62 years old.
Highest state death rate: West Virginia – 84.1% (national average 58.9% for
every 100,000 males in 1970).Wounded: 303,704 — 153,329 hospitalized + 150,375 injured requiring no
hospital care.Severely disabled: 75,000, — 23,214: 100% disabled; 5,283 lost limbs; 1,081
sustained multiple amputations. Amputations for crippling wounds to the
lower extremities were 300% higher than in WWII and 70% higher than Korea.
Multiple amputations occurred at the rate of 18.4% compared to 5.7% in WWII.Missing in Action: 2,338
POWs: 766 (114 died in captivity)
As of January 15, 2004, there are 1,875 Americans still unaccounted for from
the Vietnam War.DRAFTEES VS. VOLUNTEERS:
25% (648,500) of total forces in country were draftees. (66% of U.S. armed
forces members were drafted during WWII).Draftees accounted for 30.4% (17,725) of combat deaths in Vietnam.
Reservists killed: 5,977
National Guard: 6,140 served: 101 died.
Total draftees (1965 – 73): 1,728,344.?·
Actually served in Vietnam: 38%?·
Marine Corps Draft: 42,633.?·
Last man drafted: June 30, 1973.
RACE AND ETHNIC BACKGROUND:
88.4% of the men who actually served in Vietnam were Caucasian;
10.6% (275,000) were black;
1% belonged to other races.
86.3% of the men who died in Vietnam were Caucasian (includes Hispanics);
12.5% (7,241) were black;
1.2% belonged to other races.
170,000 Hispanics served in Vietnam; 3,070 (5.2% of total) died there.
70% of enlisted men killed were of North-west European descent.
86.8% of the men who were killed as a result of hostile action were
Caucasian;12.1% (5,711) were black;
1.1% belonged to other races.
14.6% (1,530) of non-combat deaths were among blacks.
34% of blacks who enlisted volunteered for the combat arms.
Overall, blacks suffered 12.5% of the deaths in Vietnam at a time when the
percentage of blacks of military age was 13.5% of the total population.Religion of Dead:
Protestant — 64.4%;
Catholic — 28.9%;
other/none — 6.7%.
SOCIO-ECONOMIC STATUS:
Vietnam veterans have a lower unemployment rate than the same non-vet age
groups.Vietnam veterans’ personal income exceeds that of our non-veteran age group
by more than 18 percent.76% of the men sent to Vietnam were from lower middle/working class
backgrounds. Three-fourths had family incomes above the poverty level;50% were from middle income backgrounds.
Some 23% of Vietnam vets had fathers with professional, managerial or
technical occupations.79% of the men who served in Vietnam had a high school education or better
when they entered the military service. (63% of Korean War vets and only 45%
of WWII vets had completed high school upon separation.)Deaths by region per 100,000 of population:
South — 31%,
West –29.9%;
Midwest — 28.4%;
Northeast — 23.5%.
DRUG USAGE & CRIME:
There is no difference in drug usage between Vietnam Veterans and
non-Vietnam Veterans of the same age group. (Source: Veterans Administration
Study)Vietnam Veterans are less likely to be in prison – only one-half of one
percent of Vietnam Veterans have been jailed for crimes.85% of Vietnam Veterans made successful transitions to civilian life.
WINNING & LOSING:
82% of veterans who saw heavy combat strongly believe the war was lost
because of lack of political will.Nearly 75% of the public agrees it was a failure of political will, not of
arms.HONORABLE SERVICE:
97% of Vietnam-era veterans were honorably discharged.
91% of actual Vietnam War veterans and 90% of those who saw heavy combat are
proud to have served their country.74% say they would serve again, even knowing the outcome.
87% of the public now holds Vietnam veterans in high esteem.
INTERESTING CENSUS STATISTICS & THOSE TO CLAIM TO HAVE “Been There”:
1,713,823 of those who served in Vietnam were still alive as of August, 1995
(census figures).During that same Census count, the number of Americans falsely claiming to
have served in-country was: 9,492,958.As of the current Census taken during August, 2000, the surviving U.S.
Vietnam Veteran population estimate is: 1,002,511. This is hard to believe,
losing nearly 711,000 between ’95 and ’00. That’s 390 per day.During this Census count, the number of Americans falsely claiming to have
served in-country is: 13,853,027. By this census, FOUR OUT OF FIVE WHO CLAIM
TO BE Vietnam vets are notThe Department of Defense Vietnam War Service Index officially provided by
The War Library originally reported with errors that 2,709,918 U.S. military
personnel as having served in-country. Corrections and confirmations to this
erred index resulted in the addition of 358 U.S. military personnel
confirmed to have served in Vietnam but not originally listed by the
Department of Defense. (All names are currently on file and accessible
24/7/365). Isolated atrocities committed by American Soldiers produced
torrents of outrage from anti-war critics and the news media while Communist
atrocities were so common that they received hardly any media mention at
all. The United States sought to minimize and prevent attacks on civilians
while North Vietnam made attacks on civilians a centerpiece of its strategy.
Americans who deliberately killed civilians received prison sentences while
Communists who did so received commendations.From 1957 to 1973, the National Liberation Front assassinated 36,725
Vietnamese and abducted another 58,499. The death squads focused on leaders
at the village level and on anyone who improved the lives of the peasants
such as medical personnel, social workers, and school teachers. – Nixon
Presidential PapersJohn A. O’Neal, Pomeranian American
Other than slavery, nazism, fascism and George III, war has never solved any
problems.GO GREEN!! RECYCLE CONGRESS !!! NOTHING CHANGES IF NOTHING CHANGES
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40th Anniversary Return to Site of Easter Sunday Battle, March 26, 1967
On March 26, 2007, six participants returned to the site of the March 26, 1967 Easter Sunday battle. There were two helicopter pilots (Ron Cone & Fred Stetson), one door gunner (Ed Thayer) and three Infantry advisors to ARVN units (Rex Latham, 3/16/9, Reg Farrington, 2/16/9, and Dave Radin, Vinh Long Province.
We remembered our fallen four American comrades in arms ( Tom Mitchell, Mike Kelley, Gary Wilcox, Jack Dempsey,) our fallen ARVN comrades, and the rescue of the three helicopters crews, including the night rescue of Jon Myhre. We also remembered the bravery shown by many that day as ordinary soldiers did the extraordinary to do their duty and fulfill their mission.
From left: Fred Stetson, Ron Cone, Rex Latham, Ed Thayer (rear) Dave Radin, Reg Farrington.
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Battle of Easter Sunday monument. Vinhlong, Vietnam
As this email is being sent it is about 0700 hrs, March 26 in Vietnam. It’s been 44 years.
So, again my comrades in arms, I salute you and our fallen comrades on the this 44th anniversary of the Battle of Easter Sunday.
As I did last year I’m sending this photo of the Battle of Easter Sunday monument on the battle site which six of visited on the 40th anniversary of the battle. (The date on this photos in not/not correct. I forgot to adjust the date on my camera for the time change in Vietnam.) 

As is my custom, on March 26 in the US, I’ll visit the Vietnam Memorial to pay tribute to our fallen comrades in arms.
Also, below the photo is a speech give by a former Vietnam refuge now a US citizen. With new citizens such as this, our efforts were not in vain. Thanks to Jon Myhre for sending me this speech.
May God keep each of you in his hand.
Rex
On Saturday, July 24th, 2010
the town of Prescott Valley, AZ, hosted a Freedom Rally. Quang Nguyen was asked to speak on his experience of coming to America and what it means. He spoke the following in dedication to all Vietnam Veterans.
Thought you might enjoy hearing what he had to say.
I am a proud US citizen and here is my proof. It took me 8 years to get
it, waiting in endless lines, but I got it and I am very proud of it.
the town of Prescott Valley, AZ, hosted a Freedom Rally. Quang Nguyen was asked to speak on his experience of coming to America and what it means. He spoke the following in dedication to all Vietnam Veterans.
Thought you might enjoy hearing what he had to say.
I am a proud US citizen and here is my proof. It took me 8 years to get
it, waiting in endless lines, but I got it and I am very proud of it.
I still remember the images of the Tet offensive in 1968, I was six
years old. Now you might want to question how a 6 year old boy could
remember anything. Trust me, those images can never be erased. I can’t
even imagine what it was like for young American soldiers, 10,000 miles
away from home, fighting on my behalf.
35 years ago, I left South Vietnam for political asylum. The war had
ended. At the age of 13, I left with the understanding that I may or
may not ever get to see my siblings or parents again. I was one of the
first lucky 100,000 Vietnamese allowed to come to the US. Somehow, my
family and I were reunited 5 months later, amazingly, in California. It
was a miracle from God.
If you haven’t heard lately that this is the greatest country on earth,
I am telling you that right now. It was the freedom and the
opportunities presented to me that put me here with all of you tonight.
I also remember the barriers that I had to overcome every step of the
way. My high school counselor told me that I cannot make it to college
due to my poor communication skills. I proved him wrong. I finished
college. You see, all you have to do is to give this little boy an
opportunity and encourage him to take and run with it. Well, I took the
opportunity and here I am.
This person standing tonight in front of you could not exist under a
socialist/communist environment. By the way, if you think socialism is
the way to go, I am sure many people here will chip in to get you a one
way ticket out of here. And if you didn’t know, the only difference
between socialism and communism is an AK-47 aimed at your head. That
was my experience.
socialist/communist environment. By the way, if you think socialism is
the way to go, I am sure many people here will chip in to get you a one
way ticket out of here. And if you didn’t know, the only difference
between socialism and communism is an AK-47 aimed at your head. That
was my experience.
In 1982, I stood with a thousand new immigrants, reciting the Pledge of
Allegiance and listening to the National Anthem for the first time as
an American. To this day, I can’t remember anything sweeter and more
patriotic than that moment in my life.
Fast forwarding, somehow I finished high school, finished college, and
like any other goofball 21 year old kid, I was having a great time with
my life. I had a nice job and a nice apartment in Southern California.
In someway and somehow, I had forgotten how I got here and why I was
here.
One day I was at a gas station, I saw a veteran pumping gas on the
other side of the island. I don’t know what made me do it, but I walked
over and asked if he had served in Vietnam. He smiled and said yes. I
shook and held his hand. The grown man began to well up. I walked away
as fast as I could and at that very moment, I was emotionally rocked.
This was a profound moment in my life. I knew something had to change
in my life. It was time for me to learn how to be a good citizen. It
was time for me to give back.
You see, America is not a place on the map, it isn’t a physical
location. It is an ideal, a concept. And if you are an American, you
must understand the concept, you must buy into this concept, and most
importantly, you have to fight and defend this concept. This is about
Freedom and not free stuff. And that is why I am standing up here.
Brothers and sisters, to be a real American, the very least you must do
is to learn English and understand it well. In my humble opinion, you
cannot be a faithful patriotic citizen if you can’t speak the language
of the country you live in. Take this document of 46 pages – last I
looked on the internet, there wasn’t a Vietnamese translation of the US
Constitution. It took me a long time to get to the point of being able
to converse and until this day, I still struggle to come up with the
right words. It’s not easy, but if it’s too easy, it’s not worth doing.
Before I knew this 46 page document, I learned of the 500,000 Americans
who fought for this little boy. I learned of the 58,000 names scribed
on the black wall at the Vietnam Memorial. You are my heroes. You are
my founders.
At this time, I would like to ask all the Vietnam veterans to please
stand. I thank you for my life. I thank you for your sacrifices, and I
thank you for giving me the freedom and liberty I have today. I now ask
all veterans, firefighters, and police officers, to please stand. On
behalf of all first generation immigrants, I thank you for your
services and may God bless you all.
Quang Nguyen
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Caddis Advertising, LLC
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Pineapple Girl and the Back Beach (Bãi Sau) Vung Tàu, Vietnam January 1967
One of the great perks working in the 28th 96th avionics signal shop in Vinh Long was flying up to the bone yard near Saigon (Ho Chi Minh City) to salvage parts for Huey helicopters, slicks and gunships copters. Repairing UHF airborne radio’s was boring for me and I was itching to get out of the air conditioned shop and see a lot more than the airfield compound and bars of Vinh Long.
Little did I know I was going on a mini work vacation. Three days in Saigon (Paris of the Orient) and then the back beach of Vung Tau. Fortunately, I had a detour to the US Army Special Services repair shop in Vung Tau to pick up some parts. The parts were delayed and the trip turned into a mini R&R (Rest and Recuperation) vacation stopover in Vung Tau, Saigon, and Cholon- (Vietnam’s largest Chinatown). I loved Cholon. It reminded me of the times my Dad and I visited Chinatown in NYC. It was fun going through the maze of little shops each with a tiny 10 by 10 foot area to display their amazingly wide span of items. You could go in on one street and come out three blocks from where we started. Cholon was a flashback to what is the now very prosperous, bigger than ever Tribeca area of Lower Manhattan near Canal Street.
The most memorable part of the bone yard trip was the Back Beach (Bai Sau). In my opinion one of the most beautiful beaches I have ever seen — cape shaped, warm water, kilometers of fine sand and palm trees. This was not the Orchard Beach I remembered in the Bronx, Rockaway in Queens or the Hampton’s on Long Island in New York. This was WAR!!! and my R&R. I was going to take advantage of the situation.
Napping after a short swim I looked up and was startled by a cute bare footed little girl dressed in Vietcong black pajamas and a straw Chinese hat, she was holding a ripe pineapple to my face begging me to buy it. “#1 pineapple GI”, 25 piasters (about 12 cents). I couldn’t resist the purchase from this Vietnamese doll. She expertly carve the pineapple like a surgeon going around it in steps and groves, removing the entire outer skin and leaving the stem as a handle stick to hold the masterpiece. It was delicious! While carving she asked me if I liked the bikini girls sitting down the beach under the umbrellas with their Mama-san. I said they looked good and they make a lot of money and why doesn’t she work for Mama-san. The little pineapple girl had a simple answer. “If I work for Mama-san I cannot sell pineapples anymore”. Wow!
I was reading about Vung Tau on wikipedia and found out that they will be building Disney type park, aquarium and 88-story skyscraper
Ray Mahoney
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New link to 1st Aviation Brigade

The 1st Aviation Brigade created a new link from the Brigade website to the 28th 96th Signal Detachment website and vice versa. Thanks Larry
The 28th/96th Signal Detachment, were part of the 13th Aviation Battalion and supported the avionics needs of the 175th Outlaws and 114th Knights AHC’s.
http://www.1stavnbde.com/13th/13th_Combat_Aviation_Battalion.htm
Can anyone tell me what happened to the 28th / 96th Signal Detachments and what AHC’s they were supporting, as I left in August 1967.
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Jane Fonda
NEVER FORGIVE A TRAITOR. SHE REALLY WAS A TRAITOR!! This is for all the kids born in the 70′s and after who do not remember, and didn’t have to bear the burden that our fathers, mothers and older brothers and sisters had to bear.. Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the ’100 Women of the Century.’ |
Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country, but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam
PLEASE HELP BY SENDING THIS TO EVERYONE IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK. IF ENOUGH PEOPLE SEE THIS MAYBE HER STATUS WILL CHANGE
The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot’s name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat.
In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison the ‘ Hanoi Hilton.’
Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJ’s, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American ‘Peace Activist’ the ‘lenient and humane treatment’ he’d received.
He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and was dragged away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward
on to the camp Commandant ‘s feet, which sent that officer berserk.
In 1978, the Air Force Colonel still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying career) from the Commandant’s frenzied application of a wooden baton.
From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4E’s). He spent 6 years in the ‘Hanoi Hilton’,,, the first three of which his family only knew he was ‘missing in action’. His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned-up, fed and clothed routine in preparation for a ‘peace delegation’ visit.
They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they were alive and still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his Social Security Number on it , in the palm of his hand.
When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man’s hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: ‘Aren’t you sorry you bombed babies?’ and ‘Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?’ Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.
She took them all without missing a beat.. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him all the little pieces of paper..
Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Colonel Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know of her actions that day.
I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam , and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held prisoner for over 5 years.
I spent 27 months in solitary confinement; one year in a cage in Cambodia ; and one year in a ‘black box’ in Hanoi My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot , South Vietnam , whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I weighed only about 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs)
We were Jane Fonda’s ‘war criminals….’
When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi , I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with her..
I said yes, for I wanted to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received… and how different it was from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by her as ‘humane and lenient.’
Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees, with my arms outstretched with a large steel weights placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane.
I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda soon after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She never did answer me.
These first-hand experiences do not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of ’100 Years of Great Women.’ Lest we forget….’ 100 Years of Great Women’ should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots.
There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane’s participation in blatant treason, is one of them. Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can.. It will eventually end up on her computer and
she needs to know that we will never forget. RONALD D. SAMPSON, CMSgt, USAF 716 Maintenance Squadron, Chief of Maintenance DSN: 875-6431 COMM: 883-6343
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Catholic Church Vinh Long

It was 1967 and I was on my way downtown to the bars to renew my social life and look at what I found, this gigantic Catholic Church in a little Vinh Long Town. This was a Kodak moment and had to have my picture taken to send home to my very Irish Catholic mother who prayed the rosary for me everyday. That’s the least I could do. Now, 44 years later I’m here to blog about it, thanks Mom, life is good. Wonder if the church is still there and what’s the name.
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Irish Nuns of Vinh long
This is a picture of the Good Shepard (Irish Nuns) convent and girls vocational school located near Vinh Long Army Airfield in Vietnam. This is what it looked like in 1966. I’ve been told the school is closed down now. Does anyone know any history about the school and the nuns? I remember bringing them food and supplies. The sisters wore the traditional very white habit we never see anymore. I have a picture gallery showing the nuns and the convent buildings
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Then (1966) and now (2010)
Top row: Pop Ansel, Pryor, Fonner, Rosenberg, Parks, Bottom: Cpt. Clop, Mahoney, Franks, Bean, Jones, Rokiecki
We all got along so well. I don’t think I ever saw anyone start a fight. Although we did like to watch our favorite compound dog “Gunner” take on other dogs, everyone stopped and watched as Gunner was always the favorite beat the hell out of the other dogs. We would yell “VC Gunner get em”.
Harvey Jones loved the dogs and fed them frequently. Where are you Harvey!!?
Here are some pictures of Harvey feeding the dogs.
Someone said he was from the Washington DC area. We should try and find him. So far 8 of us got together and regrouped on vacation in Bran son, Mo, over the Labor Day weekend. Next year we are planning to enjoy Table Top Lake near Branson. Can’t wait !!!!!! Here are a couple of pictures of the Vinh Long compound dogs.
Everyone changes over the years but this is ridiculous! Check out the way these Vet’s look now!!!>>> http://testequipland.com/Gallery/album09
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Beer Chart at the Hooch
Fonner, Ron Alcott. Hall, ??
Frank Parks foreground
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Ron at Skaggs Hospital
Our Vietnam buddy Ron wanted to tour the local hospital and stayed for 6 days. Here is picture of Ron getting a shot of morphine. The nurse said “what arm do want to use?”
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Live audio VN 1967
Go back 43 years and listen to a real combat operation.
Jims mobile home
Never expected to see anything like this. Jim said it was a camper, this is a rock star motor home. TNX Jim, you drove it like a pro, at times with no more than three inches on each side through the trees.
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Branson reunion gallery
We all got together in Branson, Mo for the second annul reunion. We have already set the date for the third reunion. This time we will have cabins on the lake and of course Jim will have his VIP moblie home park near by the for us to tour the area.
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Gallery
link to picture gallery >>>>> http://testequipland.com/Gallery/albums.php?set_albumListPage=1
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